
ANOTHER COFFEE BREAK: HEAVEN VIII: Moses
Jan 30, '11 6:37 PM
By Regner Capener
  Having been called to a prophetic ministry when I was very young,
    I have become increasingly aware throughout the years that this is a very
    controversial area of ministry – and one which requires the utmost integrity.
  
  There is a level of responsibility that goes with speaking,
    declaring or decreeing something “in the name of the Lord” as His
    representative and spokesman that goes beyond normal preaching and teaching. Those
    of us who walk and live in this realm have a higher standard to live by because
    if we speak falsely or declare something that the Holy Spirit has not actually
    said – or if we add to or take away from something He is saying – we
    effectively discredit His Word and create conditions that Satan uses to deafen
    people to hear the actual prophetic Word.
  
  This is true also of evangelists, pastors and teachers to a lesser
    degree, but the one who speaks and says in essence, “Thus saith
    the Lord,” had better KNOW that the Lord is truly speaking that Word for that
    moment in time and that the fruit or evidence must follow. I’m saying this
    because I’m realizing that the Holy Spirit is really pulling us up short so
    that we are cautious and careful – and yet bold to speak no matter the
    consequences.
  
  Thank God for the grace He has given throughout the years as I –
    and my fellow brothers and sisters who operate in this realm of ministry – grow
    and mature into the accuracy that must accompany us along with the personal
    integrity required! I have not always been accurate. In years gone by I have
    said things that obviously came out of a superheated imagination. They didn’t
    come to pass as I said. And each time that has taken place, there has been an
  “OUCH” inside because I missed God. His grace has covered my failures but He
    has used each failure to teach me.
  
  I’ve said all that to say this. There is a sifting taking place in
    the prophetic “movement” (if I can use that descriptor) in this hour. There is
    a shaking taking place for the purpose of sorting out those who are truly
    anointed by the Holy Spirit and wear a prophetic mantle, and those who prophesy
    in the name of the Lord for personal gain and self-aggrandizement. There must
    be a separation that takes place so that as the apostle Paul wrote, “that they
    which are approved [by God] may be made manifest among you.”
  
  That word “approved” in the Greek text is the word, dokimos.It is an ancient word that
    was commonly used among those who refined gold and silver for the purpose of
    creating coins with certain and fixed value, and it speaks of the smelting
    process – heating gold or silver in a crucible to the boiling point so that the
    impurities come to the surface and get scooped off. In the end, what remains is
    the pure gold or pure silver.
  
  That’s exactly what the Holy Spirit is doing – and has been doing
  – among those who are called to declare, decree and speak forth in the onoma (name) – the character, the
    essence, the nature and makeup of the Lord Jesus Christ. We must be proven in
    the fire, and the Word tested and tried in us. The Word that comes forth must
    be a proven and demonstrable Word.
  
  Just as there have been a number of preachers, teachers and
    evangelists who have misused the truth of the message of prosperity for their
    own gain, there have been those in the prophetic realm who have likewise
    misused their anointing, pointing accusing fingers at certain individuals whose
    gifting, anointing and sharing has been misunderstood and as a result brought
    discredit to themselves and confusion in the Body of Christ. This sifting of
    the Holy Spirit, therefore, and separation between the “approved” and those who
    walk in error must, of necessity, take place.
  
  A certain young lady named Shamir brought my attention to the fact
    that in my recent defense of some of the accused, I was doing the same thing as
    those who were pointing accusing fingers. It was a warning I both received and
    appreciated. When in our zeal to defend certain individuals or truths we
    strongly believe, we use the same tactics as those who speak in error and
    unbelief, we bring the same discredit to the Gospel. Naming names and pointing
    fingers at individuals, accusing them of heresy, is both unscriptural and in
    opposition to the command of the Lord (see I John 5:16).
  
  Our responsibility is to minister forgiveness – not condemnation! Somehow
    we have to get past the place where we feel any necessity to defend the Lord or
    defend His Word. The Word of God defends itself and stands because of the
    integrity of the Lord Jesus Christ. There is no need for our getting into
    doctrinal disputations.
  
  For my part I am glad when the Holy Spirit brings correction and
    admonishment to me. After sixty-plus years of walking with the Lord in a very
    personal relationship I know that correction comes in His love and His purpose
    to bring me to the fulfillment of His destiny in and for me. We live in the
    declining seconds of an age that is rapidly drawing to a close and it is
    critical that we all walk circumspectly with an increasing thirst for the
    manifested presence of the Lord in us.
  
  ‘Nuff said on that topic for now! Let’s
    get back to our discussions on Heaven and the important sharing that took
    place. What I’ve just shared is relevant to my discussions with Moses.
  
  My conversation with Moses followed the succession of my
    conversations with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob – and indeed, with the exception of
    Joseph, all of my conversations followed in the chronological order of the
    lives of those individuals throughout the centuries. Because I was remembering
    so much of my experiences and conversations with David, I took him out of
    sequence in these Coffee Breaks.
  
  Joseph was the one exception to the order of things. Other than a
    brief meeting with him on this first trip to Heaven, I did not have a real
    in-depth conversation with him until some two years later on my second trip to
    Heaven. In fact, he was the entire focus of my second trip, and it was a very
    different experience from this first one.
  
  As previously noted, virtually everyone I met and spoke with
    appeared in the prime of life. It’s a funny thing, but I suppose because Moses
    didn’t even begin leading Israel until he was 80 years of age I somehow
    expected him to look like a stereotypical 80-year old.Wrong!
    He was strong, muscular and appearing vibrantly healthy – much, I would suppose
  – as he did when he fled from the courts and palace after Pharaoh found out who
    he was and how he had killed an Egyptian.
  
  My questions to Moses centered briefly on his life as Pharaoh’s
    grandson, then his experiences with the burning bush and the voice of God, next
    his return to Egypt to face a Pharaoh he would likely have known as an heir to
    the throne before he fled into Midian, and finally
    the things he experienced with Israel as they were in the wilderness. I was
    curious about his responses to the Lord and how, after spending so much of his
    early life in Egyptian culture, he was able to respond to God. His answers were
    a bit of a surprise since there was nothing in my reading of Scripture that had
    indicated the picture he drew for me.
  
  Our conversation began after my introduction to him like this:
  “Moses, I always thought you grew up in Pharaoh’s palace without any real
    awareness of God, and that He introduced Himself to you for the first time in
    the burning bush. What did you think when you first heard the Lord?”
  
  He smiled and then laughed.“I suppose a lot of folks think that’s
    the way it happened, but if you think back to the account in Exodus you’ll
    remember that my sister, Miriam, offered to get a nurse for me when Pharaoh’s
    daughter found me in the river. You’ll also remember that it was my mother who
    Miriam got as my nurse.
  
  “Now think about it for a minute. I spent more of my early years
    with my real parents than I did in Pharaoh’s palace. My mother spent a great
    deal of time talking about the God of Israel and telling me about our heritage
    as descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. I wasn’t unfamiliar with God. We’d
    just never met personally until that day on Mount Horeb.
  
  “Yes, I spent a great deal of time with my adoptive Egyptian
    mother, Pharaoh’s daughter, and she made certain that I was treated as a
    possible heir to the throne of Egypt. Pharaoh never knew of my birth as a
    Hebrew. Had he known, he would easily have killed his own daughter – and me!”
  
  “So you pretty much knew, then, that you were not an Egyptian
    during your growing-up years?” I asked.“Was it hard to keep the secret? Did you
    look enough like an Egyptian that no one asked?”
  
  Moses just chuckled.“Egyptians and Jews look a lot alike. Dress an
    Egyptian in the clothing of a Hebrew shepherd and you’d never know. Put me in
    the typical garb of a member of the royal family and to all practical intents I
    was Egyptian. No one ever questioned that I was a prince.”
  
  He continued.“I didn’t really spend a lot of time among Pharaoh’s
    family until after I was 12 years of age. They’d seen enough of me during my
    earlier years that I wasn’t a stranger, but you have to understand that
    children who were of the house of Pharaoh didn’t really have the run of
    Pharaoh’s palaces during their nursing years and even up until they were
    perhaps eight years of age. When they reached that age they were being schooled
    as members of the royal family. Pharaoh’s daughter eased me in stages into my
    preparation as a prince of Egypt.
  
  “Those first years of my life with my parents teaching me about my
    heritage as a descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob – being a Hebrew – became
    so instilled in me that when, as I grew older, I began to see the bondage and
    hard labor of the Jews under the hand of Pharaoh. An anger and rebellion began
    to grow inside of me at the treatment I was seeing. I wasn’t good at expressing
    myself verbally so my frustrations just grew greater and greater as they were
    pent up.
  
  “Nearing the age of 40, everything exploded in me one day when I
    saw a taskmaster beating a young Hebrew who was under his charge. Rage took
    over and before I realized what had happened, I had killed that Egyptian. I dug
    out some sand and quickly buried him, unaware that my actions had been
    witnessed.
  
  “Everything was still seething in me the next day when I saw a
    fight unfold between a couple of my fellow Hebrews. When I stepped in to
    intervene, the man who provoked the fight somehow knew that I was not a prince
    of Egypt but rather a Hebrew like him. When he angrily responded, ‘Who made you
    our prince and judge? Are you going to kill me like you killed that Egyptian
    yesterday?’ it shook me to realize that my identity as someone other than a
    prince of Egypt had been discovered. I knew that news would travel fast and
    eventually reach Pharaoh’s ears.
  
  “It did! It wasn’t a matter of more than a few weeks and Pharaoh
    found out about the deception. From that moment there was an edict against me
    and my life was done in Egypt. There was nothing to do but run for my life.
  
  “It took me many days of walking and running to cross what you
    would see as more than a hundred miles of desert and wilderness until I wound
    up spent and famished among the fields and herds of Jethro,
    the Midianite. You pretty much know the story. Jethro took me in; and after discovering that we were
    related to each other distantly through Abraham he gave me his daughter, Zipporah, as my wife.
  
  “For most of the next forty years, I was a farmer and a shepherd –
    at first taking care of Jethro’s flocks and herds,
    and then having my own. Zipporah and I had a couple
    of sons whom we raised to likewise be farmers and shepherds.”
  
  “So you lived a completely different life than you had in Egypt,”
    I said.“Wow! How hard was that? After the palace and royalty, now you are …
    well… like a regular person!”
  
  “This was an important part of my life,” Moses responded. He was
    obviously amused at my analogy of his becoming “a regular person.”
  
  “God had to take the Egypt out of me,” he said.“For every year I
    had spent in Egyptian life, living both as a prince of Egypt, and also as a
    Hebrew seeing the hard bondage of travail of my people and being frustrated
    over not being able to do anything about it, the Lord had to completely
    re-educate me, year for year. My mindset had to change completely. I didn’t
    realize that the nomadic life of a shepherd and herdsman was preparation for my
    future leadership of Israel and the years that were going to be spent moving
    about like nomads in the wilderness.”
  
  “So you were 80 years old – or almost 80 – when you first saw the
    burning bush,” I mused, thinking back to the Scriptures I had read.“What did
    you think when you first saw that bush?”
  
  “It wasn’t just the bush that wouldn’t burn up, it was the
    appearance of the Angel of the Lord in the midst of it,” he responded.“At first
    I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, and then to see the Angel in the midst of
    the fire…well…I’d heard stories about Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and their experiences
    with the Angel of the Lord, but this was not just a story! I was seeing this
    with my eyes and hearing the Angel of the Lord with my ears! It stopped me in
    my tracks.
  
  “It was the Lord God talking to me through this Angel! You can
    believe that when I heard him say, ‘Take your shoes off: you are standing on
    holy ground,’ I took my shoes off and dropped to the ground afraid to look.”
  
  I interrupted him to ask, “What I don’t understand is why when The
    Lord told you that you were His chosen vessel to deliver Israel from the
    Egyptians – and especially after you had the two signs of the rod turning into
    a serpent and your hand becoming white with leprosy – you argued with Him, and
    continued to argue with Him, and told Him that you couldn’t speak and that they
    wouldn’t hear you! Why would you argue with God in the face of such power and
    authority?”
  
  “That’s a good and honest question,” he answered.“Looking back in
    retrospect, I’d have to say that there was a place of fear that still existed
    in me. Despite having been out of Egypt for 40 years I was still contaminated
    with the some of its remnants. Everything about Egypt was fear. Pharaoh ruled
    by fear and intimidation. The people – both the Egyptian people and we as
    Hebrews – lived our lives in constant fear. A sword hung over the land
    continually.
  
  “At that point in my life, I really had no personal experience of
    walking with God. Despite all the things I’d been told by my parents about the
    Lord and all the things I’d heard about God’s Covenant with Abraham, Isaac and
    Jacob, it was all second hand. None of it was personal for me.God
    was showing Himself to me in that moment and it should have been enough, but
    there was still enough residual fear in me to contaminate my trust in Him.”
  
  Moses stopped his explanation momentarily and pointed his finger
    at me.“Let me tell you something, young man! The Lord has given you this
    experience, just as He has already given you many other experiences with Him
    and with angels to establish a baseline of trust and confidence in Him. You’re
    going to need it! We wouldn’t be having this conversation if you didn’t have
    some very important purpose in His Kingdom economy in the years to come.
  
  “Satan will try to fill you with fear.He
    will make every effort to contaminate you just like I was. In the years to come
    you will have many contrary experiences. You will probably blunder just like I
    did and make decisions and choices you’d like to undo. Don’t let your regrets
    and missed opportunities deter you. Don’t forget, God is a God of second chances.If you miss it the first time, He’ll give you
    another opportunity.
  
  “Your ability to trust the Lord completely no matter what you see
    and no matter what experiences you have that seem totally contrary to His Word
    and His commands to you.Your life will depend on your
    ability to trust Him and have confident faith that whatever He tells you to do,
    you CAN do, and you MUST do knowing that He most certainly will fulfill His
    Word to you. Speak His Word no matter the people and no matter the
    circumstances. He will back you up just like He backed me up.”
  
  Those words registered in my being in that moment and just as
    Moses had indicated, in the years to come I would get sidetracked and
    contaminated by fear. I had no idea just how much the Enemy was going to try
    and sabotage the Word in me and prevent me from fulfilling God’s commission in
    me.
  
  Obviously I’m not going to have time today to talk about Moses’
    leadership and his experiences in dealing with Israel and bringing them out of
    Egypt, not to mention his frustration with them in the wilderness. We’ll save
    that for our next discussion.
  
  Next: HEAVEN: Moses & Israel.
  
  2011 is a year of great
    change, great stirring among the people of God!The
    call to purity and cleanliness before God has gone forth – and is going forth!This is also a year of God’s recompense on behalf of
    His people – a year of God’s Justice!
  
Blessings on you!

Regner
  A. Capener
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